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  • May 12

    Emmerson Mnangagwa

    CF: How has Zanu-PF found the experience of sharing power with Morgan
    Tsvangirai’s Movement for Democratic Change?

    EM: It is more than two and a half years since we established the inclusive
    government, and a lot of things have happened that are positive. Among them
    is that we discovered that our differences with our opponents are not that
    serious, and that we can work together without too many problems in cabinet
    as well as in government generally.

    Since then there has been peace in the country, and the economy, which had
    really gone down very seriously, has recovered. Industry and agriculture are
    also in the process of recovering, and there is a vibrant mining sector.

    Tourism went down drastically because of sanctions brought by your people
    (Britain, Europe and the US) and the bad publicity that the country has
    received internationally, but is also showing signs of growth.

    CF: Are you hopeful of sanctions being lifted against your party?

    EM: All three political parties in Zimbabwe have agreed to campaign for their
    removal, but so far we have drawn blanks on this matter from Brussels and
    London. It seems they are still inclined to impose sanctions on us. There
    are also still foreign broadcasts into Zimbabwe in our local languages that
    are spreading hate speech, which agitate for regime change.

    CF: Are you referring to the BBC?

    EM: No, I mean the likes of Voice of America. The BBC has its own crimes, but
    not that one.

    CF: When do you think there will be elections in Zimbabwe?

    EM: This is not set in stone, but assuming that a referendum on a new
    constitution is held and accepted, then the time frame for elections after
    that is a period of four months. If we were to have a referendum in October,
    then we would be looking at February for an election.

    CF: Do you think they will be free and fair?

    EM: I can assure you that the people of Zimbabwe are more concerned that the
    elections are free and fair than anyone in London or elsewhere, and we want
    to do everything to achieve that. The perception that Zanu-PF is violent is
    wrong. It is more and more apparent that it is not us, but the MDC-T (the
    party of Morgan Tsvangirai) who is like that - recently some of their
    representatives were arrested in Harare for a killing a policeman.

    CF: How do you view Mr Tsvangirai personally?

    EM: We have seen in the past that his organisation has had foreign funding,
    which does not go down well here, and also received reports that he has
    consulted in the past with US and British diplomats, which again works
    against him. But while I have been Minister of Defence, I have found him a
    very sound, sober person, and have had no problem with him.

    CF: You have profited personally from the land confiscations against white
    farmers. Is this justified?

    EM: I have 400 hectares, that is correct, but it is a just entitlement,
    absolutely. My parents were removed by (former white Zimbabwean leader) Ian
    Smith and pushed into the mountains. Other reclaimed land includes which was
    taken from my grandparents 60 or 70 years ago. I would say, though, that the
    single quarrel between us and Britain, on land reform, is now behind us.
    Yes, six people died in the process, but the issue of land reform is a
    question of justice.

    CF: Do you think that Britain still secretly controls things here in
    Zimbabwe, as Mr Mugabe sometimes seems to claim?

    EM: The British do not command things here, no, and I personally do not think
    they have any inimical intentions towards Zimbabwe. I should point out that
    when we took over here in Zimbabwe, I actually offered promotions to three
    of the white officers who tortured me during our struggle for independence.

    The point was to make it clear to them that I realised that they were simply
    doing their jobs, serving their governments, and that we wanted to build a
    new country, this time based on love and respect.

    CF: What do you say to claims that you were involved in organising
    campaigns of intimidation against opposition supporters in the 2008 polls?

    EM: I was minister of rural housing. Unless they say that people were being
    intimidated during the construction of rural homes, then this never
    happened.

    CF: Why is it that so many Zimbabweans say bad things about you? That you
    are a secret power, more feared than Mr Mugabe himself?

    EM: You are the first person to ask me these kind of questions, but I don’t
    really know where any of this kind of stuff comes from at all. I am number
    12 in the party, not number two, and am just a very humble person.

    CF: Do you have any ambition to be president?

    EM: I have no ambitions to be president. People speculate left right and
    centre but we have a structure in our party with a president and two
    vice-presidents. The leadership has to come out of that group, and I am not
    part of it. I just wish a legacy of peace, prosperity and growth for the
    younger generation.